Your Chart...Part 2!!!!!!!!!!

OK girlies...here's the new thread...off you go!

BTW,as for me,I have been having cramping on and off for a couple of days,it's pretty strong today and it feels like will be here any minute,I am hoping she is and thanking whoever if she shows today xxx

do the tip test-get some tissue and have a browse hehe x

Angel, hope is on her way to you! Boy, that sounds strange to say, lol!

Georgi, here's the info off my soy isoflavones bottle:
Take 2-4 capsules daily with meals.

Total Isoflaones (from Soy Extract) 40mg
Daidzin & Daidzein 14mg
Genstin & Genistein 16mg
Glycitin & Clycitein 5mg
Other Isoflaones 5mg

This is a US brand called Natrol (www.natrol.com).

As I mentioned, I'm take 4 capsules. I've played around with the days, like CD3-7 or whatever, but I'm not sure it really matters with me. Last cycle I think I just took them up until I ovulated, which is CD11.

Well, I'm pretty sure ff is wrong about my ovulation day. I feel exactly as I do a few days before is due and I feel so emotional today, I just want to cry I am having problems with my GP and they know that I have a confirmed diagnosis of PCOS, yet they still feel they ought to run a whole load of tests before referring me to a fertility specialist. I'm fed up with the way they treat me that I'm tempted to order some clomid from a website that sell it as an anabolic steroid (for muscle training purposes). It's probably not the most sensiblet thing to do but I just can't talk to my GP. Otherwise I will wait until I have moved and hope that the Doctor's in that area are better. Unfortunately in the UK, you can't just refer yourself to a specialist. Anyway, to cut a long story short, I think I ovulated between days 14 and 16 so due anyday.

Sorry, I feel incredibly selfish since posting that. I've just had my sil round her banging on about her perfect labour and wanting another (3rd) baby and how she is soooo fertile and all this stuff that drives me mad not because she is mega fertile and has fast natural labours but just becasue it seems she is bragging all the time. Just had to have that little rant! Apparently getting pregnant is as easy as having sex on days 10, 12 and 14, according to her!!!! Raaaaggghhh!!!


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oh galaxy!! thats awful!! i cant believe she would actually run around talking like that!! i know better than to do that, and (not trying to sound bad or brag, dont take it that way) i have no troubles getting pregnant it seems. i hope saying that doesnt offend anyone, i would share my fertility in a heartbeat if i could! seriously. i dont see how anyone could be so stupid and insensitive to just talk like that. jeez! **hugs**

emma, I looked at your chart and it does seem possible that maybe you did O on that earlier dip, but I'm certainly no expert and there's just not enough info on your charts to guess. If that other day WAS O-day, that would put you at 9DPO. So sorry about your SIL. I'll say it for you.....BITCH!! There, feel better? :>)

Speaking of SILs, I realized that I have once again managed to avoid hubby's older sister. If you remember, I had confided in SIL quite some time ago about and our difficulties. Well despite telling her stuff in confidence, SIL at some point told her parents who then mentioned something to hubby....and it pissed me off to no end and terribly upset me. I haven't seen her since I learned this (sometime after Xmas, can't remember when). I skipped one family event (actually I seem to be avoiding the in-laws too I just realized) and now we're going to my parents for Easter, so I won't see her again. SIL called me the other day and happened to ask if anything new was going on with me....and I couldn't get the word "NOPE!" out of me fast enough. Bahhhh. I suppose someday I'll have to deal with it.

Acu. doc had not responded to my email about Clomid but I wasn't worried since I now had an appointment to see her today. So we reviewed all my test results and she is quite encouraged that nothing is glaringly wrong in any of them and that I ovulated TWO months in a row (and that's despite not having acu. during those cycles!). It truely is amazing. I have no clue how it works but I BELIEVE in it!

She does not have the u/s report yet so I could only tell her what little I know, and my suspicions about uterine lining and progesterone. She does not want me to take the Clomid this cycle. She says we've made tremendous progress at balancing everything and now we need to try to fine-tune things. I do want the Clomid to have the best possible chance to work so I'm willing to wait. My period does seem to be a bit heavier this time so she thinks that could be a good sign.

So the session went well and I managed to do a good job at relaxing. I didn't try to focus and meditate too much, just tried to relax as much as I could. One thing I do often think of is the opening scenes of "Look Who's Talking." Since I'm ovulating now, fertilization is the next step, huh?

Hey Nika, I'd like an egg please! LOL!

Forgot to say that I'll be taking soy isoflavones this cycle again since I won't be taking the Clomid. Georgi, did you reach any decisions regarding soy? We can be soy-cycle buddies!

hehe bethy!!! id gladly give you one too!!! i was totally thinking of offering one to you after i had the baby and then i was like "doh! she will totally be pregnant by then!" hehehe. glad things are looking up, i bet you will look in your medicine cabinet in about a year while searching for the infant tylanol for your baby when you see that clomid and just laugh!!!

Emma sweetie so sorry your SIL is so insensitive, last night I got so excited when I read Helen's text message that I literally screamed forgetting that 2 of my friends sat there are BOTH one of which is having problems and is now at the 1 year mark, fertility Doctor referral stage of course I had to tell them what the text said and I felt awful for being so insensitive, sometimes it's easy to forget yourself BUT your SIL almost sound's like her comments are intentional????

Anyway about your ovulation date...hmmmmmm I believe FF!! the ovulation date they have given you looks most likely but I guess only time will tell, I really hope that it's NOT and your having implantation cramps...totally possible!!!! especially if you are indeed 6dpo!

Beth - I am going to take the Soy, sod it I say!! I will take 4a day I just want to see if I can encourage an earlier ovulation if it works then in 2 cycles when we start I will have a heads up on what is going to 'hopefully' make #2 easier! What days are you taking it this cycle?? Of course I have to wait until my next cycle now as I am already CD10

Hey girls.Still cramping,have been since about a week ago.Feel like is gonna be here any minute (Although she's not due for another couple of days) I have done 4 test (I know naughty me) but so far (thank GOD I still have some hope) all BFN's I am sorry if I sound insensitive because you all are trying.Perhaps I should post this elsewhere.If I could give any of you my fertileness I would trust me.I am DONE.I am so sorry for being openly pleased about BFN's but I just dont want to be pregnant ever again,baby not so much.I would have 5-6 if we had the money and I had the suportbut the pregnancy,no thanks.Anyway,DH and I are having issued again,so I especially dont want a .Oh god,I feel so bad,someon please PM me if I am wrong to post this here.I dont know what I do thats right at the moment.

Well today, I feel so sick and really tired so I took a trip to the shop to get a top of the range CB digital with conception indicator, came home did the test as I figured if it's negative then I can be certain I am not pregnant as the only two time we BD'd this month was before day 14. Anyway, I sat on the toilet thinking I really needed to pee and only a trickle came out. I sat patiently as the timer came up on the test but then a little picture of a book came up which means there is an error due to too little urine.
Luckily, there are 2 tests in the kit so I have to wait until later. To be honest Georgi, you are probably right, I don't have much experience in reading these charts but I just had to know and then I can focus on next month and order some opks and maybe a saliva testing kit. I'm off to fill my bladder now for later.

Angel, stop worrying huna and apoplogising, everyone knows you mean no harm and I'm sure at some point we have all been in a situation where we really don't want to be pregnant even though we do now.

Honey, this thread was created for us all to chat about our charts and cycles whether we are or not, it's NOT specifically a thread for 'ers I can only speak for myself but I for one don't mind you being open about wanting a BFN rather than a , gosh I recall being the same boat before we ever started , difference was I had no-one I could talk to, so please feel free to express how you are feeling, we are 'all' here to support you!!

Emma - What a REAL pain that there was an error with the first test arrgghhhh how annoying....if you are 6dpo though the chances of that test showing up positive even if you ARE pregnant are going to be slim, but if it makes you feel better to test then do it did you buy the new digi one's that tell you how many weeks pregnant you are aswell as PREGNANT or NOT PREGNANT.

Angel, you're such a strong supporter of us trying to get pregnant, why can't we support you trying NOT to be pregnant? It's ok, honest. Doesn't bother me one bit. I've been around longer than all of you and I can really say there's been a few times when I was hoping hoping hoping I wasn't pregnant because it just wasn't what I wanted at all. It's the women who take their fertility for granted (like Emma's SIL) and women who pop out baby after baby just to get government assistance that bother the hell out of me.

Emma, what's a CB digital with a conception indicator? Is that a fancy thermometer? Oh, I just realized maybe it's a ClearBlue Easy digital OPK? I've been using the ClearBlue Easy Fertility Monitor (CBEFM) since Jan. 2008 so I have LOTS and LOTS of practice at POAS, lol.

Tried vaginal temping today and my temps just went through the roof. So my chart looks ultra-wacky still. Somehow this temp seems way too high? I created a Vaginal Temping box so if the pattern changes, I can remember why.

Thanks guys! I posted it al and then thought 'shit perhaps I shouldnt be posting this here'But you are all lovely and sweet! Thanks!

Galaxy,I have had that error too with the book before on a test.Too little pee.Drink a litre of water,that should fix it

Bethy,I think vaginal temp taking would work better for you.Just maybe keep on it for a couple of weeks and see if it helps clarify things anymore for you.I have a feeling it will xxx

Beth, it's a clearblue digital pregnancy test and as well as giving you a big fat result, it tells you approximately when you conceived.

Anyway, just caught some wee to do the second test and got a BFN. I'm not upset, just have much clearer vision for the future. I suspect ff is right so I just need to make a plan of action for next month and order my stuff. If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to advise me. Don't want this to sound funny but PLEASE no feeling sorry for me. There are people a lot worse off and like I said, this just gives me better vision for next month.

Ah, I understand now. Well, it's not surprising that it was BFN. Sorry. As for the next cycle, hmmmm. Definitely get some OPKs. I personally like the ClearBlue Easy ones (not digital) that are 7 to a box. I get them on eBay but they're not super cheap. But maybe you'll need more than 7. Toffee, where did you get your strips?

I know I've asked this before so excuse me for not remembering, but is this cycle a typical cycle? I see last year you used to O around CD14/15 but not this time. Trying to figure out the best time to start using the OPKs. Gosh, I'm sorry I'm not a bigger help right now.

I had a thought about my high temp today.....I just have a hot little box! LMAO!

No, Beth, it's not typical for me to ovulate that late on in my cycle. They have become longer over the past few months, since I was put on metformin for my PCOS. I have come off it now as it makes me feel really nauseous. I just went online and bought a saliva ferning kit and a load of cheap opks. O got the cheap ones as I figured I would need a lot due to not knowing when to start testing. I also dug out my vitex and epo from the back of the cupboard (I am really bad at taking meds) and I plan to much more dedicated to filling my chart out properly this month.

Hey Emma!
I was just reading up on everyone and i saw that you were on Met. I was too for 6 months and that's how i got pg with Thane..but oh goodness the nausea and vomiting that go along with that med is horrible!! you have no choice but to eat right cuz if you eat fat and sweets you will puke it up :'(

I am surprised you O'd late though on it, i went from ovulating around CD 40 to CD18 while i was on it. AND since having Thane and I am happy to say my cycle is pretty normal now - although I won't be ever again, its still cool to be regular for once!

Good luck to Beth and all you ladies !!!!!!!!! XXXX

What a nice surprise I have just got Bright red bleeding on CD10 no cramps just very red blood, I have had light bleeding around this time in my cycle before but it's never been this red, usually pink or brown!

Sorry girls it's me being selfish now but I need some advice:

As you can see from my post above I started bleeding lightly last night certainly enough to wear a pad, well this morning I am still bleeding and in the shower couldn't help but notice a ton of EWCM along with the blood,, very typical for me plus I am starting to get a bit of cramping AND yesterday I felt bloated but put that down to birthday booze however it again could have been a pre- symptom for me. I am not sure what I should do but basically would have been due around this time had I ovulated, so do you reckon I should join the 2 charts up and then class yesterday as CD1? The bleeding that I had 11 days ago was like a light but this time I suppose what I am saying is this resembles just that much more.

EDIT: Plus my temp has dropped this morning which again is a sign for me when I bleed sometimes at other points in my cycle my temp doesn't drop that much!

hmmmmm, crazy stuff. Maybe pop to the dr's and ask them?

You beat me to it Toffee, I was just going to re-type my post and say that I've made a decision myself and that's to class last night as CD1, I have such convincing cramps now and when I bled 11 days ago I had no cramps, no symptoms at all I thought I was ovulating but obviously my temps proved I wasn't! Along with the cramps, the EWCM, the red blood as apposed to brown or pink, the bloating and temp drop I think it's safe to say this is REALLY this time! Plus like I said above I would have been due around now so it makes sense. x x

Not sure if I'm gonna O much earlier this cycle. We'll see! My chart looks as if it's starting the process.

Good news (could also be bad) lol. I start full time on Monday! 40 hours per week in a new store about 20 min drive away. It's great haha, new stuff, more room! And I'm gonna be team leader hehe. So it's just in time, I was getting fed up in the local store-being stuck at the bottom with not enough hours. And in 4 months I leave hehe